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And what?

Tuesday Jun 28, 2005

After reading article after article over the years about ‘activists’ bombing places, protesting, ect. I’ve got one question. And what? And what have they accomplished?

Lets take for instance an article on cnn.com about Eric Robert Rudolph who confessed to bombing an abortion clinic, a gay and lesbian nightclub, and the 1996 Olympics. Who knows deep down WHY he did what he did. But what did he accomplish? Death?

Most of the time something is done like this they scream, “In the name of god”. Let me ask you, and what? If they are doing it in the name of God, they believe abortion is wrong, its murder, ect. Correct? Okay then what in the heck have they done when they have bombed clinics, ect. They have killed people. What is the difference? What makes them better? What gives them that right? They do it in the name of god right? So how are they any better or doing god’s will if they are doing the very same thing they are accusing others of doing? What gives them the right or the justification? It’s okay BECAUSE it’s god’s will?????


PETA (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals )..
It’s in the news often. Recently an article was published about two PETA employees being arrested for animal cruelty. Not only were they arrested, they were arrested on 31 felony animal-cruelty charges for killing and disposing of dogs and puppies in a dumpster.

Over the years PETA has made a strong name for itself. Mostly it’s not a good name. People hear PETA and the acid in their stomach starts to churn and the need to upchuck shortly follows. You may call this extreme. But I ask you. And what? Think back at all the articles you’ve read in the last 2 years that PETA has been involved in. I’m all for animal rights. But if you want to be heard what is the right way to go about it? PETA is extreme. The images they conjure up are extreme.

The images they’ve plastered all over the place are extreme. The things they’ve told/shown kids are extreme. The things they’ve done in public are extreme. AND what? What are we to think? Are we really hearing their messages? In my not so humble opinion, NO. All we see is what they’ve done and the negative image surrounding them. How many of us actually care what their message is after they’ve put dead animals into garbage bins, protested near schools while handing out leaflets that say “Does your food have a face”, Appearing at theaters with comic books for children that have headlines that read,”Your mommy kills animals”.

Not long ago, here locally, Someone involved with PETA chained themselves to a pole in a busy downtown area. She was protesting the circus. Great! Go for it! Protest all you want. Leave yourself chained all day for a month if you like. However this woman chose to do so with her top half of her body bare. She only had on what you would normally call underware. That was it.. How many parents do you think were outraged? Do you think they gave a damn at that point what her message was?

How many hear their message when you cant get passed your repulsion for the way the message was delivered? And to anyone who doesn’t think this is extreme, then what do you consider extreme?

Of course PETA isn’t the only group who goes out of their way to be radical and have a negative image plastered all over the net, news, newspapers, ect. But my point is still the same.

What are they gaining when their ways are so twisted and backwards? Is the saying ,’there’s no such thing as bad publicity’ ring true in this case?

And what to all those who are lost in the folds? What to tell those who even though they agree with the message walk off from it for the simple way the message is delivered. There are many who would gladly join in the protest if only it wasn’t so extreme.

We keep saying over the years, Eye for an Eye is wrong. It’s unjust, 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Then what are these guys preaching about? It’s okay to kill as long as it’s supporting the cause? It’s okay to scare children as long as it’s supporting the cause? It’s okay to take someone’s rights away from them as long as it supports the cause?

Yeah, I’m on a tad bit of a tirade today b/c I’ve argued this point to a family member lately who can’t seem to get their head out of their butt long enough to see that if you kill a group of people, or bomb and abortion clinic, because you don’t believe in what they are doing, because you believe they are committing murder, you believe they are killing, then WHAT do you think it is you are doing when you blow the place up and kill 20 people in the process? Its okay though b/c its in the name of God, It’s supporting the cause.. That’s their point of view anyhow..

12 Comments »

Hi there…here from Michele’s Meet and Greet (but I have seen your name around at other blogs”…

I totally agree with you. I used to support PETA, and I still support alot of their principles, but really, they just got so extreme that I can’t relate. I don’t like the testing of cosmetics on animals, but I am certainly not going to chain myself up nekkid to a pole to make that point. No wonder no one takes them seriously anymore. Or any of those “fringe” organizations. Its sad, because the message gets lost when the messengers are so out of their friggin minds.

June 28th, 2005 | 1:47 pm

Hey Ivy, I’m dropping in from Michele as well. That was very, very well-said. It does seem that, unfortunately, those extreme activistist are too narrowly focused and enamoured with the purpose and righteousness of their own position, to see that they have become as bad, if not worse, than what they were fighting against.

It becomes less about good intentions and more about the “glory”.

June 28th, 2005 | 2:16 pm

Hope your feeling better, Ivy. I think violence only creates more violence. Reminds me of the saying “It’s wrong to kill people who kill people to teach that killing is wrong,” or something close to that. Hey, what’s up with people coming from Michele’s M&G on a Tuesday? I’ll have to go check it out.

June 28th, 2005 | 4:33 pm

What your saying is so true and i can’t believe the people doing these actions can’t see that they probably aren’t going about it the right way. Like the saying goes “you catch more flys with honey” or something like that. I mean strapping yourself to a pole topless! That’s just uncalled for.

June 28th, 2005 | 5:56 pm

You’re right. I think sometimes these activists forget their point.

June 28th, 2005 | 11:46 pm

Extremists, Activists, etc…

These people are great fun… They show us how not to behave in society….

I decided once to go on a protest march… I felt like a fool and got out of there shortly after I started… And honestly… I really didn’t believe in what the message of the protest was anyways.

I will never understand violent protest. People who believe they can get their point across by hurting others are terrorists and should be dealt with accordingly.

June 29th, 2005 | 3:23 pm

I gotta agree with you guppy..

June 29th, 2005 | 4:41 pm

Well said. All of it.

I saw a Penn and Teller Bullshit show about
PETA. And I was horrified at how insane those
people are. They don’t even believe that
people should have PETS! And all these pet
lovers donate to them year after year.

June 29th, 2005 | 7:06 pm

The unsound methods of extremists never ceases to amaze.

June 29th, 2005 | 9:57 pm

Hi Michele sent me - I was quite excited to come over - I had a good friend in high school named Ivy…. and I agree with your views on this topic. Well said - Brava! Brava!

June 30th, 2005 | 1:23 pm

Ivy –
It seems that people who take these drastic measures, often do not think beyond executing their heinous acts.
I’m sure, if you confronted any of these “activists,” they would have explanations or rationalizations for what they do.

However, you’re right that they probably only serve to further polarize people in their beliefs.

Thank you for stopping by and commenting on my blog. I really like your style. It’s very pleasing to the eye.

I plan to return! :)

June 30th, 2005 | 3:06 pm

Good post. Their thinking is one tracked selfishness. It’s just that they are trying to justify their own selfrighteous issues and guilt.. but not opening up and dealing with what made them think that way in the first… they hide and lash out…

They learn to think this way by hiding in their own personal fear. :( So sad.

July 3rd, 2005 | 9:48 pm
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